Former US secretary of state Mike Pompeo gestures in an interview with the Taipei Times in Taipei yesterday. Photo: Fang Pin-chao, Taipei Times

By Kayleigh Madjar / Staff reporter

Responding to the Chinese threat against Taiwan requires international cooperation and consistent deterrence, former US secretary of state Mike Pompeo said yesterday in an interview with the Taipei Times.

The former top US statesman called for clarity in the global response to growing authoritarianism.

“We all see what’s going on in the world today,” he said. “These are times when thugs, aggressors appear to be prepared to take actions which destroy the most fundamental thing that we all value: human life,” he said. “It’s time for leaders across the world to make clear there are lines which can’t be crossed and there are things which are just right and moral and deep and important, and we ought to speak to them with absolute clarity.”

This includes declaring Taiwan’s status as an independent sovereign nation, although it would not be any different from what is already known to be true.

“When one says that Taiwan is independent, it’s almost tautological — we’ve known this for a long time,” he said. “It’s only [Chinese President] Xi Jinping （習近平） who talks about ‘reunification’ as if Taiwan was at one point a part of China.”

When it comes to countering the Chinese threat, Pompeo emphasized the importance of cooperation between nations.

“All of the countries in the region need to work together if we’re going to maintain this line, this demarcation that says freedom matters,” he said.

“We have to make sure we know who’s on which side of that line, and I think we can all see that pretty clearly today,” he said, referencing Russia’s invasion of Ukraine and China’s reluctance to take a stance.

It also includes military cooperation between not only US forces and Taiwan, but also the militaries of Japan, Australia and other countries that each have their own “unique capabilities,” he said.

When the military piece falls into place, “then diplomats can do their job, because that power will be there to prevent this from being an armed aggression, and we can confront the economic aggression we’ve all seen so directly from the Chinese Communist Party,” he said.

Pompeo was complimentary of the progress made by the Quadrilateral Security Dialogue, known as the Quad — a strategic dialogue between Australia, India, Japan and the US.

While the Quad evokes the idea of military cooperation, “this understanding of these nations working together has to be across the gamut,” including diplomacy, economics and intelligence sharing, he said.

“The Quad is a tool for doing that, and I would love to see other nations come around and be part of this coordinated regional effort,” he said.

However, behind this shared front, strength is necessary to serve as a deterrent against bad actors, he said.

“This idea of deterrence emanates from nation-states that are prepared to use the mighty tools that they have,” Pompeo said.

Russia’s invasion of Ukraine is an example of the failure of consistent deterrence, finding its root in alleged weaknesses exhibited by US President Joe Biden since taking office, he said, adding that for Russian President Vladimir Putin, “what changed is his perception of the risk, the cost.”

“That’s the capstone of deterrence, is convincing your enemies that their perception of risk is serious enough that they won’t take the kinds of action that we’re seeing today,” he said.

There are differences between Xi and Putin, as “Xi has a truly global vision, and Putin’s vision is about greater Russia,” Pompeo said.

China also has a massive population and globalized economy, meaning that “the problem set confronting them is that much more complicated, but that much more important as well,” he added.

While the world is rightfully uniting around the crisis in Ukraine, “we can’t lose sight of the threat from Xi Jinping,” Pompeo said. “We should maintain our understanding that the Chinese Communist Party does in fact pose the single greatest threat to our Western way of life, bar none.”

Speaking to his decision to declassify cables on the “six assurances” during his time in office, Pompeo said it was part of a broader effort to update US responses to global matters.

Pompeo said that when he took office, there were many instances in which the US was still “acting in a way that was old and outdated.”

He therefore directed the US Department of State to “draw those lines more crisply” to clarify the US’ expectations for its partners in addition to the things they would do together.

The reason this works so well for Taiwan is because “I am confident that the people here will do the heavy lifting,” he said. “The people of Taiwan are prepared to do the right things to secure their freedom.”

As for his decision to eliminate state department restrictions on interactions with Taiwan, Pompeo said that politics had nothing to do with it.

“It was just a basic recognition that the people of Taiwan are independent,” he said. “This is a sovereign nation and we ought to treat people who come to visit us in a diplomatic fashion from every sovereign nation with the respect and courtesies that they deserve.”

新聞來源：TAIPEI TIMES

Former US secretary of state Mike Pompeo talks to the Taipei Times at the Grand Hyatt in Taipei yesterday. Photo: Kayleigh Madjar, Taipei Times

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